I have had a run of Panasonic C150 chassis TVs recently which
have been good for me. These days, it is rare to get common faults and each one
is its own proverbial pain in the backside when it comes to tracing it. So
often, the time taken is too long to charge it all out to one job and one can
only hope that similar faults in other sets will offset the cost of finding the
original cause.
The C150 has a common problem due to the design of its vertical
output stage around IC451 (LA7838). The solder pads for this 13-pin in-line IC
are too small and are prone to dry joints and/or fractures in the solder,
resulting in a variety of intermittent vertical scanning faults.
In Australia, there were only seven models employing the
C150/C150A chassis released since its introduction in 1996. And more often than
not, this is the first fault that the customer has had in five years. What I
like is that most people want it fixed in the home and I can go and do this in
about half an hour – a win-win situation for everyone.
The only fly in the ointment is the intermittent part, because
invariably the fault won’t show when I’m there. I can only go on the client’s
description of the problem and there are so many people who are not articulate
or that accurate in their observations.
The worst scenario is when IC451 fails and results in the set
being dead because of the load on the 12V rail (pin 1). Repeated failures of
IC451 can be attributed to C455 (100μF 35VW).
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Items Covered This Month
- Panasonic C150 chassis TC-25R70AB
- Panasonic M19 chassis TC68GS90
- Panasonic MX8 chassis TC68PS10
- Panasonic M16M TX-33V2X
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Caught out
Unfortunately, I was really caught out last month when Mr
Peters brought his set, a TC-25R70AB, in with the fault description:
"intermittent loss of picture and a horizontal white line".
I immediately took this to mean intermittent loss of vertical
deflection and stupidly quoted on this basis. Naturally, I switched the set on
and the picture was fine even when I belted it – my standard shock test for dry
joints.
Still, I was extremely confident it was just dry joints on
IC451 and so after waiting 10 minutes, I decided to resolder them. When I had
finished, I replaced the back and put it aside for soak testing.
My confidence didn’t last long. About 30 minutes later, I was
walking past the set and was mortified to see that the display on the picture
tube was now a pulsating bright raster with a white horizontal line in the
centre.
I immediately returned the set to the operating theatre and
removed the back. However, when I switched it on, it was back to working
properly again – much to my frustration.
I persevered and noticed that after about 15-20 minutes, the
picture would go through a series of very slight changes but mostly getting
increasingly brighter until the screen was an uncontrollable white raster. It
would then start to pulsate, with the picture geometry breaking up and an even
brighter white horizontal line appearing in the centre.
Because it took so long to happen, I attributed this to heat
causing a component to fail. But where? The other clue I thought I might have
was the rust on the metal screen covers – no doubt due to the owner living close
to the beach.
I started with a hairdryer and this did tend to support my
theory that heat was causing a part to fail. Unfortunately, after emptying one
and a half cans of extremely expensive freezer, I couldn’t get the fault to
reverse itself.
Next, I examined the rust/salt corrosion problem. This was
mostly confined to the metal screening cans and was not visible on any
component. Nevertheless, I sprayed the entire set with a fine mist of CRC 2-26
and then used the air compressor to make sure every part of the chassis was
covered in a fine coating of oil.
But still the problem persisted. All the voltage rails checked
out OK but I did notice some variations in the voltages applied to the CRT.
These, however, could be restored by unplugging E/Y32 – the drive to the output
transistors. I spent some time examining Q350 and its associated components,
especially the diodes, and I replaced C350 and C360. But to no avail.
By now, I also noticed that in the process of getting brighter,
the hue would change too – somewhat randomly. I checked the screen voltages and
the screen control on the flyback transformer, because by now I had worked out
that as it got progressively brighter, the set was unable to cope with the beam
current. As a result, the flyback secondary voltages were dropping with the
demand for power by the tube.
I must confess I did have some doubts about the flyback
transformer but for now I was more interested in the jungle IC – IC601
(TA8844N). In the end, I decided to take the plunge and replace this 64-pin
high-density device.
You can imagine my frustration when this made absolutely no
difference.
What was missing?
So what was I missing? Well, as Mr Sherlock Homes would have
noted to Dr Watson, I hadn’t been concentrating on the details. As the picture
began to go into its runaway failure, one of the first things it did was ever so
slightly change its colours and produce Hanover blinds. Now, this was happening
only very intermittently and very subtly but it turned out to be the main
symptom when it came to determining the cause of the whole problem.
This symptom made it appear as though the set was being
switched to NTSC and this is usually caused by problems with the line pulses.
Line pulses are often used for clamping DC levels for the output stages, so it
was well worth following this line (‘scuse the pun) of investigation.
The horizontal (line) pulses are generated from the line output
transistor via C509/C510 and fed around to pin 35 of IC601 via horizontal
centring control R509. I put a CRO on the line and watched it. As the fault
occurred, so the line pulses began to start changing shape and cause "ringing"
immediately after the pulses. And when I saw it going through the "H. Center"
control, I suddenly remembered reading a service bulletin about it.
I dug up the bulletin which was about "intermittent colour
phasing/missing at top half of picture". Well, this was not really the problem
we were faced with, though there were some similarities. I read on and it said
these sets may have a problem with the colour content of the picture. It can
either be a symptom where intermittently the top half of the picture may have
missing colour, or the top half of the picture may have a colour phasing problem
(green colour at top).
It went on but I was beginning to lose interest as these
weren’t the main symptoms I was getting. However, out of curiosity, I decided to
vary the horizontal centring control (R509) and see what happened.
To my surprise, varying this control had a real effect on the
symptoms. Fully anticlockwise, it was very bad but turn it fully clockwise and
the symptoms would slowly vanish – and stay that way.
The Technical Information Sheet advised that R508 should be
changed from 15kΩ to 27kΩ
and C507 from 150pF to 330pF. I made these changes, reset the pot to centre the
picture and that, as they say, was that. The fault was fixed
completely!
Panasonic month
It’s been mainly a Panasonic sort of month, with all sorts of
models jumping out of the woodwork.
One 68cm 1997 TC68GS90 TV employing an M19 chassis once again
found its way to the middle of my bench while my back was turned. I keep telling
myself Mrs Serviceman that she mustn’t allow these sets onto my bench while I’m
doing important things – like making coffee – but it doesn’t do any good.
This set was dead and apparently dead urgent too. Someone in
the Ladies Bowing Club (which owned the set) has influence.
It didn’t take massive amounts of brain power to discover that
line output transistor Q552 (2SD2539LB306) was short circuit, as was D720
(RH3F). The only problem was why?
I switched the set on and sound and picture appeared in that
order. But just as I had managed to tune in a station, the set died again. The
same two culprits also got extremely hot before dying.
I had had a chance to see the picture before the set died and
it was too small (about 20cm wide). What’s more, there was a large east-west
pincushion effect.
With only the above information to go on, I had to make an
intelligent guess as to what the problem might be. As a result, I decided to
order a new flyback transformer (T501), along with the other components that had
failed again.
The boss wasn’t impressed with the delays – the heat must have
been on and I speculated that perhaps she was up to being elected to the
committee. I was quickly reminded that it wasn’t for me to speculate on anything
other than the job at hand. I bet brain surgeons don’t get treated like
that.
Anyway, when the parts arrived and were fitted, I decided to
cover myself and measure the B+ rail and a few other rails as well. I also
connected the oscilloscope to the collector of Q552 to check the line pulse.
I switched it on and, of course, with a new flyback
transformer, you have to reset the screen and focus controls before you can see
the picture.
Oops! – too late. The two parts had failed again and were red
hot. However, I did manage to check the voltage rails in time and was able to
see that no change had occurred in the picture. Unfortunately, I missed the
oscilloscope readout as it was on the wrong range and the set died before I was
able to adjust the controls.
Well, my feeling was that I had at least covered myself with
the flyback transformer and the two components were dying from delivering too
much power into the east-west correction circuits. So that was where I had to
investigate next.
The cathode of D720 is connected to the collector of Q552,
while its anode goes to its partner D721 and to the X Board via D9, pins 7 and 8
and then to the line linearity coil and correction transistor Q703 via L722 and
R765.
I took out the X Board and examined it very closely. I checked
it for dry joints (there were none) before using a multimeter to check the main
components. Q702 and Q703 were fine, as were all the coils, diodes and
capacitors. Everything was looking fine but as a last resort, I decided to check
the resistors too. (I really didn’t have much more in the way of clues in the
old kitbag). It was just as well because I found R765 (10Ω) to be open circuit. I put
a new one in after checking everything else, fitted a new transistor and diode
and gingerly switched it on again.
Now I wasn’t really expecting much. I had been surprised that
R765 was open, which made me think about Q702 and Q703 again – but I really
couldn’t see this as being responsible for blowing up the set.
But as usual, I was wrong. The set was now working perfectly
and the offending parts were no longer getting hot. I soak tested the set for as
long as I dared before informing the boss that it was ready.
A bizarre fault
The next story involves a bizarre fault. It too was a
Panasonic, a 1999 model TC68PS10 with an MX8 chassis. In this case, the top 10cm
of the picture was full of flickering big dots (not snow, though), stripes and
lines and data – somewhat like data corruption. It was really weird and even
happened when the video was muted out to a blue screen.
Well, where do you start with such a phenomenon? I could only
think data, computers, micros – so I went for the microprocessor first (IC1101,
MN1873284TF1), then the EEPROM (IC1102, 24LC08B1PA22) and finally the jungle IC
(IC601, TB1237AN). To my frustration, changing them had no effect at all.
Surprisingly, it turned out in the end to be the tuner/IF
module (TNR1, ENG39602G) that was the culprit. But having replaced all the other
ICs, there really wasn’t much left to change – except the
cabinet!
Mr Edwards’ 92 telly
Mr Edwards is a nice enough guy. He is semi-retired and lives
with his wife in a modest house, with a private income from a block of luxury
units. To look at him, you wouldn’t think him to be a wealthy man – until you
saw the TV. It was a 1992 Panasonic TX-33V2X using an M16M chassis.
So what, you say? Well, this was a pretty expensive telly back
in 1992, even by today’s standards. Back then, it cost about $5000 for this set
which came with an 84cm picture tube and all the bells and whistles.
Despite its complexity, the M16 is a pretty reliable chassis.
It was something of a watershed in Panasonic design and used plug-in modules,
rather like the early M4 chassis of the seventies. That is probably where the
similarity ends but you get the drift – it’s big, heavy (60kg) and complex.
So why was I doing a housecall on it? I can only put it down to
the set being big and heavy and me being both optimistic and stupid. In
mitigation, from Mr Edward’s fault description, it could easily have been
something simple – after all, he said it intermittently wouldn’t start with the
remote control.
Anyway, I thought it worth a look, so off I trundled to the
Edwards’ house.
I started by looking at the remote control and found that it is
actually two remotes in one. One side has a simple, basic remote control, while
the other side has a much more complex layout. It was obvious that this wasn’t
going to be easy to drive – especially as there were also a couple of tiny slide
switches just inside the battery cover. And the 100-page(!) instruction booklet
was like a small telephone directory.
I started by removing the batteries from the remote, thus
disabling it, and tried switching on the set. The master on/off switch brought
it onto standby, with the red power indicator coming on in the middle of the
control door. One can never tell whether or not this is a fault condition,
because most sets have an arrangement that when the power is switched off by the
master switch, the set defaults to its last status – ie, if it was on stand-by,
it will come on in standby and if it was on, it will come straight on.
The next trick was to find the standby/on switch on the front
control panel. On this model, it is the program up/down buttons.
When I tried it, the set wouldn’t come on. I then put the
batteries back in the remote and the set still wouldn’t come on. I wasn’t one
hundred percent sure how the set was meant to be switched on from standby, so I
tried the volume 1 controls plus lots of other things as well but got no result.
However, after many repeated attempts, the set suddenly came on. I tried the
remote control and that now worked too – it even switched the set on and off
very positively.
This was the worst scenario I could imagine. There was probably
an intermittent fault within the monster and the only place to tackle that was
my workshop bench – definitely not here.
However, muggins me decided to poke about inside and proceeded
to remove the back. Inside, the only accessible modules are the S-Board (AC
Filter), N-Board (Power In) and X-Board (Deflection Correction).
The all-important D-Board Power/Deflection is one of the mother
boards and is almost totally inaccessible. I resoldered some potential dry
joints on the S, N and X-Boards and reassembled it. Despite bashing the set, I
couldn’t make it go off so I then spent some time checking the tuning and set
up.
There were two other problems. First, the sound was only coming
out of the lefthand speaker. Locating the menu for adjusting the balance control
wasn’t easy but I eventually found it under the "Auto/Function" menu on the set
and the "Sound Menu" on the remote control. Readjusting it brought sound in the
righthand speaker up correctly but I couldn’t find a menu that would switch the
annoying "MONO"
indicator to "STEREO" every time I changed channel.
This set has two separate stereo decoders – "A2 (German)"
Zweiton and Nicam Digital – which it can automatically select. The only control
is choosing between "Stereo" and "Bilingual". Everything, I tried left it in the
MONO mode so
there was obviously a second fault here.
I discussed this with Mr and Mrs Edwards who agreed to try it
as it was – they weren’t too fussed about not getting stereo. Unfortunately,
four days later, this all unravelled when Mr Edwards phoned to tell me the set
wouldn’t start again. I still thought that this might be due to a dry joint on
the D-Board and so I called in and picked up the chassis so that I could rework
it at the workshop. However, apart from a few dodgy connections, I couldn’t find
anything wrong.
It was then that I had an amazing bit of good luck. I was
reading a technical magazine on repairing this very set and there, in black and
white, were the two faults I had observed and the solution for both of them.
It all concerned the 5V rail from IC803 and, in particular,
C885 and C889 (both 330μF 16VW). When these two electros dry out, the 5V rail drops to 4V,
affecting the digital circuits. I replaced both parts on spec and took the
reworked chassis back to the Edwards. I am happy to report that we had a good
result.